games vista

Hi,
Have any of you tryed installing a lot of games that you may have had on XP? As I think Vista takes up a bit more CPU and RAM than XP does and wondering if you have noticed any slow-down within the games that you may not have experienced on XP ?
I only install the odd game mainly cos I play PS2 or X-Box lol cheers,

Vista code still contains debugging code and is not optimized, so comparision with XP is not very useful. Games have been doing well for me but I am not an action gamer. Some games have been inconsistent from build to build.
"Marc Nutty" wrote in message

Hi,
Have any of you tryed installing a lot of games that you may have had on XP? As I think Vista takes up a bit more CPU and RAM than XP does and wondering if you have noticed any slow-down within the games that you may not have experienced on XP ?
I only install the odd game mainly cos I play PS2 or X-Box lol cheers,

I actually find that Oblivion is faster on Vista 64....though this machine is faster than my XP machine I was using.
The Windows desktop does take RAM, but they seem to unload it from memory to give more to the games. At the end of a long gaming session, I used to come out to the "Aurora screen" while it said it was preparing my desktop. I now have more Ram, so have not seen that screen lately.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

Vista code still contains debugging code and is not optimized, so comparision with XP is not very useful. Games have been doing well for me but I am not an action gamer. Some games have been inconsistent from build to build.
"Marc Nutty" wrote in message Hi,
Have any of you tryed installing a lot of games that you may have had on XP? As I think Vista takes up a bit more CPU and RAM than XP does and wondering if you have noticed any slow-down within the games that you may not have experienced on XP ?
I only install the odd game mainly cos I play PS2 or X-Box lol cheers,

I have heard running games on 64 bit is better...
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For those games that are written for x64, yes. The improvement for 32bit games is slight but it is there. There are enough games that don't run on x64 that you probably should stick with x86 for gaming for now.
"Marc Nutty" wrote in message

soooo, would running on the 64-bit be faster than 32-bit???
-- -Nutty- "Zapper" wrote in message I actually find that Oblivion is faster on Vista 64....though this machine is faster than my XP machine I was using.
The Windows desktop does take RAM, but they seem to unload it from memory to give more to the games. At the end of a long gaming session, I used to come out to the "Aurora screen" while it said it was preparing my desktop. I now have more Ram, so have not seen that screen lately.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Vista code still contains debugging code and is not optimized, so comparision with XP is not very useful. Games have been doing well for me but I am not an action gamer. Some games have been inconsistent from build to build.
"Marc Nutty" wrote in message Hi,
Have any of you tryed installing a lot of games that you may have had on XP? As I think Vista takes up a bit more CPU and RAM than XP does and wondering if you have noticed any slow-down within the games that you may not have experienced on XP ?
I only install the odd game mainly cos I play PS2 or X-Box lol cheers,

Madden 2005 is awesome on X64

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

For those games that are written for x64, yes. The improvement for 32bit games is slight but it is there. There are enough games that don't run on x64 that you probably should stick with x86 for gaming for now.
"Marc Nutty" wrote in message soooo, would running on the 64-bit be faster than 32-bit???
-- -Nutty- "Zapper" wrote in message I actually find that Oblivion is faster on Vista 64....though this machine is faster than my XP machine I was using.
The Windows desktop does take RAM, but they seem to unload it from memory to give more to the games. At the end of a long gaming session, I used to come out to the "Aurora screen" while it said it was preparing my desktop. I now have more Ram, so have not seen that screen lately.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Vista code still contains debugging code and is not optimized, so comparision with XP is not very useful. Games have been doing well for me but I am not an action gamer. Some games have been inconsistent from build to build.
"Marc Nutty" wrote in message Hi,
Have any of you tryed installing a lot of games that you may have had on XP? As I think Vista takes up a bit more CPU and RAM than XP does and wondering if you have noticed any slow-down within the games that you may not have experienced on XP ?
I only install the odd game mainly cos I play PS2 or X-Box lol cheers,

NHL 1993 won't load...
"Zapper" wrote in message

Madden 2005 is awesome on X64

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message For those games that are written for x64, yes. The improvement for 32bit games is slight but it is there. There are enough games that don't run on x64 that you probably should stick with x86 for gaming for now.
"Marc Nutty" wrote in message soooo, would running on the 64-bit be faster than 32-bit???
-- -Nutty- "Zapper" wrote in message I actually find that Oblivion is faster on Vista 64....though this machine is faster than my XP machine I was using.
The Windows desktop does take RAM, but they seem to unload it from memory to give more to the games. At the end of a long gaming session, I used to come out to the "Aurora screen" while it said it was preparing my desktop. I now have more Ram, so have not seen that screen lately.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Vista code still contains debugging code and is not optimized, so comparision with XP is not very useful. Games have been doing well for me but I am not an action gamer. Some games have been inconsistent from build to build.
"Marc Nutty" wrote in message Hi,
Have any of you tryed installing a lot of games that you may have had on XP? As I think Vista takes up a bit more CPU and RAM than XP does and wondering if you have noticed any slow-down within the games that you may not have experienced on XP ?
I only install the odd game mainly cos I play PS2 or X-Box lol cheers,

Half Life 2, Counter Strike Source, Battlefield 2, Doom 3, Civilization 4 and Quake 4 all load and play fine here. All have latest updates. Half Life 2 and Doom 3 even put themselves in the Windows Games folder.
"Mark D. VandenBerg" wrote in message

NHL 1993 won't load...
"Zapper" wrote in message Madden 2005 is awesome on X64

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message For those games that are written for x64, yes. The improvement for 32bit games is slight but it is there. There are enough games that don't run on x64 that you probably should stick with x86 for gaming for now.
"Marc Nutty" wrote in message soooo, would running on the 64-bit be faster than 32-bit???
-- -Nutty- "Zapper" wrote in message I actually find that Oblivion is faster on Vista 64....though this machine is faster than my XP machine I was using.
The Windows desktop does take RAM, but they seem to unload it from memory to give more to the games. At the end of a long gaming session, I used to come out to the "Aurora screen" while it said it was preparing my desktop. I now have more Ram, so have not seen that screen lately.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Vista code still contains debugging code and is not optimized, so comparision with XP is not very useful. Games have been doing well for me but I am not an action gamer. Some games have been inconsistent from build to build.
"Marc Nutty" wrote in message Hi,
Have any of you tryed installing a lot of games that you may have had on XP? As I think Vista takes up a bit more CPU and RAM than XP does and wondering if you have noticed any slow-down within the games that you may not have experienced on XP ?
I only install the odd game mainly cos I play PS2 or X-Box lol cheers,

"Michael Styles" wrote:

Half Life 2, Counter Strike Source, Battlefield 2, Doom 3, Civilization 4 and Quake 4 all load and play fine here. All have latest updates. Half Life 2 and Doom 3 even put themselves in the Windows Games folder.
"Mark D. VandenBerg" wrote in message NHL 1993 won't load...
"Zapper" wrote in message Madden 2005 is awesome on X64

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message For those games that are written for x64, yes. The improvement for 32bit games is slight but it is there. There are enough games that don't run on x64 that you probably should stick with x86 for gaming for now.
"Marc Nutty" wrote in message soooo, would running on the 64-bit be faster than 32-bit???
-- -Nutty- "Zapper" wrote in message I actually find that Oblivion is faster on Vista 64....though this machine is faster than my XP machine I was using.
The Windows desktop does take RAM, but they seem to unload it from memory to give more to the games. At the end of a long gaming session, I used to come out to the "Aurora screen" while it said it was preparing my desktop. I now have more Ram, so have not seen that screen lately.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Vista code still contains debugging code and is not optimized, so comparision with XP is not very useful. Games have been doing well for me but I am not an action gamer. Some games have been inconsistent from build to build.
"Marc Nutty" wrote in message Hi,
Have any of you tryed installing a lot of games that you may have had on XP? As I think Vista takes up a bit more CPU and RAM than XP does and wondering if you have noticed any slow-down within the games that you may not have experienced on XP ?
I only install the odd game mainly cos I play PS2 or X-Box lol cheers,

I've installed the 32bit version, and it runs fine. But I only had time to install two games on it so far (Battlefield 1942 and Far-Cry) and they both give me issues. The major issue is that my game profile settings don't get saved. Everytime I reload the game, my settings are back to default. Both games are patched to their latest version.

Sorry for my last post not showing up. Wrong click at the wrong time... =(
What I was wanting to say was that my only issue so far is with my user profile settings. I only installed two games SO FAR on Vista Beta2 32bit, these games are battlefield 1942 and FarCry just for testing. The major issue that I am getting is that all my game profile settings are not being saved. Everytime I set up the controls, video, audio, etc. settings, they are not being saved. When I start the game again, the settings are back to default.
Vista is installed on a fresh hard-drive and I have not installed anything else on it other that drivers and these two games.
"Steven Bond" wrote:

"Michael Styles" wrote:
Half Life 2, Counter Strike Source, Battlefield 2, Doom 3, Civilization 4 and Quake 4 all load and play fine here. All have latest updates. Half Life 2 and Doom 3 even put themselves in the Windows Games folder.
"Mark D. VandenBerg" wrote in message NHL 1993 won't load...
"Zapper" wrote in message Madden 2005 is awesome on X64

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message For those games that are written for x64, yes. The improvement for 32bit games is slight but it is there. There are enough games that don't run on x64 that you probably should stick with x86 for gaming for now.
"Marc Nutty" wrote in message soooo, would running on the 64-bit be faster than 32-bit???
-- -Nutty- "Zapper" wrote in message I actually find that Oblivion is faster on Vista 64....though this machine is faster than my XP machine I was using.
The Windows desktop does take RAM, but they seem to unload it from memory to give more to the games. At the end of a long gaming session, I used to come out to the "Aurora screen" while it said it was preparing my desktop. I now have more Ram, so have not seen that screen lately.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Vista code still contains debugging code and is not optimized, so comparision with XP is not very useful. Games have been doing well for me but I am not an action gamer. Some games have been inconsistent from build to build.
"Marc Nutty" wrote in message Hi,
Have any of you tryed installing a lot of games that you may have had on XP? As I think Vista takes up a bit more CPU and RAM than XP does and wondering if you have noticed any slow-down within the games that you may not have experienced on XP ?
I only install the odd game mainly cos I play PS2 or X-Box lol cheers,

soooo, would running on the 64-bit be faster than 32-bit???
-- -Nutty- "Zapper" wrote in message

I actually find that Oblivion is faster on Vista 64....though this machine is faster than my XP machine I was using.
The Windows desktop does take RAM, but they seem to unload it from memory to give more to the games. At the end of a long gaming session, I used to come out to the "Aurora screen" while it said it was preparing my desktop. I now have more Ram, so have not seen that screen lately.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Vista code still contains debugging code and is not optimized, so comparision with XP is not very useful. Games have been doing well for me but I am not an action gamer. Some games have been inconsistent from build to build.
"Marc Nutty" wrote in message Hi,
Have any of you tryed installing a lot of games that you may have had on XP? As I think Vista takes up a bit more CPU and RAM than XP does and wondering if you have noticed any slow-down within the games that you may not have experienced on XP ?
I only install the odd game mainly cos I play PS2 or X-Box lol cheers,

Thanks Microsoft. You have managed to aleinate my wife. She likes the look of the games in Vista, eg Solitaire, Freecell etc but is annoyed as hell with all the stupid pop-ups asking what she wants to do.
If she wants to start a new game, she doesn't want a pop-up asking her what she wants to do - just automatically start a new game.
You have taken games that was so simple and turned them into a complicated mess. Probably programmed by the UAC.
There goes my upgrade.
Sob. Sob.
Jonty
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"Jonty" wrote in message

Thanks Microsoft. You have managed to aleinate my wife. She likes the look of the games in Vista, eg Solitaire, Freecell etc but is annoyed as hell with all the stupid pop-ups asking what she wants to do.
If she wants to start a new game, she doesn't want a pop-up asking her what she wants to do - just automatically start a new game.
You have taken games that was so simple and turned them into a complicated mess. Probably programmed by the UAC.
There goes my upgrade.

If you're talking about the tips box. Game -> Options -> Uncheck show tips.
If you're talking about the prompts when you've got a game in progress and want to start a new one, then in my opinion that's the right thing to do. It would only take one button press to accidently nuke a game in progress - F2. If it's a time thing just press F2 and enter and it'll quit the existing game and start a new one.
The main critism I've had from my mum is how it's much more strict with keeping score. She would do loads of things like saving and loading games in Spider to avoid using undo (which lowers your score). You can't do that in Vista now, and ultimately that's the right way to do things.
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Well Paul. I'd disagree with you. Take Solitaire. You can continue playing the game until there are no more moves. The a pop-up is displayed with your options. Fine I agree with this. This is Solitaire for Dummies.
However, if my wife is playing and can see that she will not win - hey, she is smarter than the computer. She goes to Games, start a new game and hey - a damn pop-up asking does she want to start a new game or replay the old one. NO! she wants a new game - PERIOD!, this is what she selected.
Like I say, all MS has done is added complexity to a simple game. The KISS principle is dead.
Jonty
"Paul Smith" wrote:

"Jonty" wrote in message Thanks Microsoft. You have managed to aleinate my wife. She likes the look of the games in Vista, eg Solitaire, Freecell etc but is annoyed as hell with all the stupid pop-ups asking what she wants to do.
If she wants to start a new game, she doesn't want a pop-up asking her what she wants to do - just automatically start a new game.
You have taken games that was so simple and turned them into a complicated mess. Probably programmed by the UAC.
There goes my upgrade.
If you're talking about the tips box. Game -> Options -> Uncheck show tips.
If you're talking about the prompts when you've got a game in progress and want to start a new one, then in my opinion that's the right thing to do. It would only take one button press to accidently nuke a game in progress - F2. If it's a time thing just press F2 and enter and it'll quit the existing game and start a new one.
The main critism I've had from my mum is how it's much more strict with keeping score. She would do loads of things like saving and loading games in Spider to avoid using undo (which lowers your score). You can't do that in Vista now, and ultimately that's the right way to do things.
-- Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. http://www.windowsresource.net/
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"Jonty" wrote in message

However, if my wife is playing and can see that she will not win - hey, she is smarter than the computer. She goes to Games, start a new game and hey - a damn pop-up asking does she want to start a new game or replay the old one. NO! she wants a new game - PERIOD!, this is what she selected.

And what happens to people who accidently clicked new game? Is it right for them to lose a game in progress?
Pressing F2 and Return is far faster than using the menu with the mouse anyway. Just do that instead.
-- Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. http://www.windowsresource.net/
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Paul, For starters they're not playing to win money, hotels etc. If they press it once and lose a game - no big deal. Bet they won't do it a second time.
And you want my wife to use the eeek - keyboard. She's just mastered the dam mouse. A pop-up we will go, a pop-up we will go, hi ho the ....
Jonty
"Paul Smith" wrote:

"Jonty" wrote in message
However, if my wife is playing and can see that she will not win - hey, she is smarter than the computer. She goes to Games, start a new game and hey - a damn pop-up asking does she want to start a new game or replay the old one. NO! she wants a new game - PERIOD!, this is what she selected.
And what happens to people who accidently clicked new game? Is it right for them to lose a game in progress?
Pressing F2 and Return is far faster than using the menu with the mouse anyway. Just do that instead.
-- Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. http://www.windowsresource.net/
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I've got Vista 64bit loaded on my PC. Most of my games won't work at all or load and then crash. These were working on XP 32bit. The games that will work so far is SIMS2 and SIM City. Ive tried the compatibility mode, that changed nothing. Is there any other games that have been tried and DO work in 64bit?
"Jonty" wrote:

Thanks Microsoft. You have managed to aleinate my wife. She likes the look of the games in Vista, eg Solitaire, Freecell etc but is annoyed as hell with all the stupid pop-ups asking what she wants to do.
If she wants to start a new game, she doesn't want a pop-up asking her what she wants to do - just automatically start a new game.
You have taken games that was so simple and turned them into a complicated mess. Probably programmed by the UAC.
There goes my upgrade.
Sob. Sob.
Jonty
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"STP162" wrote:

I've got Vista 64bit loaded on my PC. Most of my games won't work at all or load and then crash. These were working on XP 32bit. The games that will work so far is SIMS2 and SIM City. Ive tried the compatibility mode, that changed nothing. Is there any other games that have been tried and DO work in 64bit?

YES, i believe that many of the games that came out for the Xbox 360 will work in 64bit, or you can probibly make you computer be compatible somehow, ask MS.

"Jonty" wrote:
Thanks Microsoft. You have managed to aleinate my wife. She likes the look of the games in Vista, eg Solitaire, Freecell etc but is annoyed as hell with all the stupid pop-ups asking what she wants to do.
If she wants to start a new game, she doesn't want a pop-up asking her what she wants to do - just automatically start a new game.
You have taken games that was so simple and turned them into a complicated mess. Probably programmed by the UAC.
There goes my upgrade.
Sob. Sob.
Jonty
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"Galen" wrote in message

YES, i believe that many of the games that came out for the Xbox 360 will work in 64bit, or you can probibly make you computer be compatible somehow, ask MS.

Xbox 360 has nothing to do with it.
Most of the games that work with Windows XP x64, and that does include the Sims 2 and Sim City 4 *should* also be working in the final version of Vista. At the moment WoW just may not be working correctly on Vista x64 or it could well be driver issues.
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You don't mention which games are not working, but if they are a little older and contain some 16-bit code, x64 may be having a little trouble with them.
"STP162" wrote in message

I've got Vista 64bit loaded on my PC. Most of my games won't work at all or load and then crash. These were working on XP 32bit. The games that will work so far is SIMS2 and SIM City. Ive tried the compatibility mode, that changed nothing. Is there any other games that have been tried and DO work in 64bit?
"Jonty" wrote:
Thanks Microsoft. You have managed to aleinate my wife. She likes the look of the games in Vista, eg Solitaire, Freecell etc but is annoyed as hell with all the stupid pop-ups asking what she wants to do.
If she wants to start a new game, she doesn't want a pop-up asking her what she wants to do - just automatically start a new game.
You have taken games that was so simple and turned them into a complicated mess. Probably programmed by the UAC.
There goes my upgrade.
Sob. Sob.
Jonty
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"Jonty" wrote:

Paul, For starters they're not playing to win money, hotels etc. If they press it once and lose a game - no big deal.

Same argument can be said:
For starters they're not playing to win money, hotels etc. If they "SEE A TINY POP-UP WINDOW" - no big deal.

And you want my wife to use the eeek - keyboard. She's just mastered the dam mouse.
Jonty

Conratulations to your wife! Since she has now "mastered" the mouse, I'm sure is intelligent enough to "master" "F2 + ENTER" as Paul mentioned earlier!
I sincerely hope you don't get offended by this post as no malice is intended, but "PLEASE", give your wife more credit than that!
Cheers,
Lee-roy.

hello please help i play all and any firstperson shooters,new and older games on new p.c. vista 32 bit some in compatiblity mode for xp no probs,but one thing is common to all i.e.when i press rcrtl+right mouse game minamises and a popup for BABYLON single click appears,i close babylon click on game at bottom of screen and carry on WARNING DONT TRY RUNNING STEAM IN COMPATIBLITY MODE FOR XP i did it wont run -- bear